Talk:Nimu Spacecat

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On controversy
The controversy has no place since there's no direct or correct info about the real cases. Adding it without a proper evaluation won't help but misinforming about what happened in the first place.

I had to write the case in an article for an online radio. And the info around the media is extremely sensationalistic and only makes the drama way more bigger than it is in the first place.

As a summary, Nimu did a mistake by claiming copyright issues towards the model of the fellow VTuber Suwie(Loli) in public during the stream of the last one mentioned. We all understand that she should have done that in private, but the bad reception caused Nimu to get mad and thus talking without thinking in her Discord.

While people "claim" she sent his fans to storm and hate Suwie, the truth is that it's not real, a few extremists fans and other external toxic persons took advantage of this situation and went for their own will to attack Suwie at the point to make her almost cry and cut the stream.

However, Internet was relentless about the image of the VTuber and many youtubers misinformed at the point that were taken as true without a proper base and often insulting or judging her personality thanks to some unfortunate commentaries she did either in her Discord or in Facebook during a stream.

Despite Nimu made a public apology in text and also Suwie talked about the case requesting peace and not canceling Nimu. Internet went to invalidate the points of Nimu by claiming she was still talking and insulting Suwie in her Discord after her apology which is false.

Finally, Nimu made an apology video in her Facebook where she shows regret of all the things she did and said regarding her unfortunate comments either in Loli's livestream and the others she said in her groups.

This case is simply dumb as the chaos was caused by a few commentaries done in the wrong place and it's practically a human mistake more than a cruel and relentless act to "take down the competence" as people were spreading around all the social media.

Accuracy of the claim
Her claim being the first Argentine Vtuber is false.

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i edited just to post about the controversy. sorry if my english is a little bit wonky.

si algún hispanohablante tiene un nivel de inglés más avanzado, sería de agradecimiento que me corrigiera un tanto el texto que coloqué!

Rejected diff, part 1.

Many people have claimed that the actual first Argentinian Vtuber is Danuu AI.

Rejected diff, part 2; reformatted to fit the page; annotations were added by the moderator

On September 4th, a conversation was leaked from her official Discord server where she was informed of a streamer called Loli using a Live2D model resembling Nimu's model. Nimu reacted somewhat negatively, stating that she was not surprised that someone was using a character akin to hers. Nimu, upon realizing the character model, said that Loli supposedly had no permission to use the character and that the creator of the model was the one who drew and created her character. Her fanbase incited insults towards Loli. [not well-supported by the source]

Loli's character model was a non-official Live2D Facerig model from a popular VOCALOID and VOICEROID character called Kizuna Akari, made by the artist Amakoke. After receiving the news about Loli's stream, she[Nimu?] decided to join her[Loli's?] stream and talk to her about her character model, along with her fans, which it resulted that she spoke harshly to her to the point of making her[Loli?] cry on-air.

Loli issued a statement saying that she would learn from her mistakes, clarifying that Nimu is the only person who can judge her own decisions in such situation. As a result, Nimu posted an apology dedicated to Loli on her Twitter account with her statements, but in a stream she made another apology in which she blamed the fact that she was on her period causing her to "act nasty".

Regarding the status of the model that Loli used, Amakoke was contacted and confirmed that it is okay to use the model on streams, this fact refuted what Nimu said about Loli not being allowed to use the model. Amakoke apologized because of their model looking similar to Nimu's.

Some people[who?] believe that Nimu edited the Kizuna Akari model by Amakoke without any permission, even if Amakoke apologized for the similarity between Akari's model and Nimu's.

There's a bunch of mistakes chronologically talking on the statement you wrote about. Mainly on several points. Starting that Nimu did the first mistake at talking in public during Suwie(Loli)'s stream. Nimu never implied what you mention or talked that she wasn't surprised. By judging the evidences, she claimed at first stance that the fanbase, mainly the "toxic" ones would claim and consider Suwie "a copy of Nimu", not that every model around are a copy of Nimu.

Second, the negative reception lead Nimu to react negatively and show several unfortunate commentaries on her personal Discord group that put her in an bad position by checkin the captures. The commentaries as well as explanation of the model Suwie was using were written after the livestream of the affected VTuber. This is the second big mistake held by Nimu at the moment.

Third, following the several memes, the trending topic of the name Nimu on Twitter and many users giving an exaggerated and extremely sensationalist context of the happening, Nimu decided to clear the things up during her livestream on Facebook. The main points she regards about the controversy were cleared by Nimu explaining about the consequences of using a vocaloid model that cannot be used in VTuber activities, because of a reasonable point, copyright issues.

That includes that the claims that the fanbase do towards her were made by the ignorance(Which is evidenced by the lack of knowledge about understanding what "commercial use" is or how it works, sharing websites to "acute" Suwie's position or addressing her innocence as the character was downloadable at Steam without considering the rules given on it. Bassically doing a Straw Man Fallacy).

Despite the bad reception and many people sending "Angry" reactions on the livestream, she was apologizing the about her negative reaction, but the apologies weren't considered by the audience after she was justifying that her mood changes were caused by her period. Which leads her third and last big mistake. On September 27th on an interview, she confirms that the "apology" she did during her livestream was never an official one, she explained that tried to joke about which wasn't a very good idea as she agreed.

After checking out the final evidences chronologically talking, she posts a twitlonger hours later on Twitter apologizing and regarding the mistakes she did and was aware that she needs to change and control herself. The statement itself is alright, yet the fanbase and other people were invalidating the apologies by posting the captures shared of her discord during the afternoon and claiming that while she apologied in Twitter, she was still insulting Suwie on Discord which is eventually fake and sadly people shew the ignorance and lack of reasoning by not checking the "evidences" but believing the commentaries. On September 6th on her Facebook she posts an official apology doing a "mea culpa" about all what happened. Which closes the problem between both VTubers.

Ok, now regarding Sora-Chan's post on Twitter only regards the fact that Amakoke was apologizing with apparently an external customer about that the character commissioned hold similarities with other ones. Where the artist apologized by the similarities. About Nimu, her character was commissioned by Amakoke, so there's no real evidence to claim that she edited it as the character only shares certain emotes with Kizuna Akari's model, avoiding the obvious fact of the emotes, her character is completely original as you won't find her model anywhere.

{{Sign|Comment by MisutaK on 7 Dec 2020